Highest goal scorer

By Don of Caddington3/6/2015 19:38Wed Jun 3 19:38:24 2015

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John Baker is listed as the third highest goal scorer for Hendon FC. Who was 1st and 2nd? I am guessing David Hyde was Ist but I might be wrong.

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Re: Highest goal scorer

By John Rogers4/6/2015 10:29Thu Jun 4 10:29:35 2015In response to Highest goal scorerTop of thread

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I think the club's record goalscorer is Freddie Evans with about 176 (I may be wrong, and don't have time to sift through the website right now). Not sure who is 2nd.

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Re: Highest goal scorer

By David B4/6/2015 11:45Thu Jun 4 11:45:32 2015In response to Re: Highest goal scorerTop of thread

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Rod Haider scored 165 goals in 696 appearances.

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Re: Highest goal scorer

By SteveHFC4/6/2015 11:58Thu Jun 4 11:58:23 2015In response to Re: Highest goal scorerTop of thread

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First up, the Green & Gold article states that John Baker is the 3rd highest scorer since 1963. Rod Haider is above him, and I can't remember who the other one is. David Hyde scored 118.

There are two players prior to the Isthmian League era who scored more. Freddie Evans, who has long been considered the club's record scorer has 181 according to the website data, but Roy Stroud has 212.

I suspect the difference is down to additional data having been found in the intervening years.

The data does include wartime league & cup games - but if we didn't include that data, we wouldn't get anywhere near Bill Fisher's appearance record (generally stated as 787 - the website has it as 716. Not sure there are as many as 71 appearances missing, but if we don't include the games he played during WWII then he would have a much lower appearance total.

Edited by SteveHFC at 12:04:39 on 4th June 2015

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Re: Highest goal scorer

By ChrisHFC4/6/2015 12:09Thu Jun 4 12:09:29 2015In response to Re: Highest goal scorerTop of thread

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Players known to have scored over 100 goals for the club in competitive matches, according to the website (there may be others that I can't think of at the moment) are:

212 Roy Stroud
181 Freddie Evans
174 Jimmy Quail
165 Rod Haider
163 Bob Avis
144 Cecil Wise
138 John Baker
120 Miles Spector
118 David Hyde
104 Tommy Lawrence

The totals for Roy Stroud, Freddie Evans, Cecil Wise, and to a lesser extent Bob Avis could be higher. We know that we are missing appearance and scorer data, particularly before World War II, though the same applies to World War II, and there are nearly a dozen matches missing for seasons between the end of the war and 1954-55.

From that list, the only two players playing since 1963 who have scored more goals than John Baker are Jimmy Quail and Rod Haider. However Jimmy Quail scored 87 goals up to the end of 1960-61, and 87 goals from 1963 to the end of his career with us. In 1961-62 and 1962-63 he played for Enfield.

As a comparison, the most prolific goalscorers for the club competitively since 1980 (that I can think of without trawling through the website or my own records) are

83 Colin Tate
78 Iain Dowie
71 Eugene Ofori
70 Paul Whitmarsh
69 Junior Lewis

Edited by ChrisHFC at 12:28:21 on 4th June 2015

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Re: Other Club Records

By rwakeley4/6/2015 13:01Thu Jun 4 13:01:39 2015In response to Re: Highest goal scorerTop of thread

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Obviously due to incomplete data I have some grey areas which may provide some insight.
Bill Fisher's appearance record is often stated as 787, however I have his obituary and several articles which confirm the figure as high as 823.
He is often stated as having held the most consecutive games record as 175 completed on 05/01/1946 vs Finchley, but he also played in the following game vs Wood Green so one could derive the actual figure is 176!
The first post-war sending off was Miles Spector on 04/04/59 - the grey area surrounds the very first. A much later article refers to Bob Thomas 18/03/39. However another article suggests that Reg Heywood was dismissed 3 years earlier - He made 18 apps and I have all the reports, none of which mentions Reg having been sent-off.
Most goals in a game, also a grey area, I have an article proposing H Shearcroft scoring 6, (all headers), in a game vs Uxbridge - no further details - and I can't find any corresponding fixture. The same article suggests Harry also banged in a club record 59 goals in one season - no further details - this is off the charts on my data compiled to date - it may include the reserves!
All debatable stuff - either way that's some ruddy strike rate by Freddie Evans!!!

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